Kanye West is a ‘lost soul,’ Glenn says. But that doesn’t excuse or explain away the horrible things he’s said recently about the Holocaust and Jewish people. Ye is likely in the midst of a mental health breakdown, what he’s saying is INSANE, and the beliefs he has recently expressed are BEYOND wrong. But, Glenn says, Jesus would still give him compassion — even if that’s something WE feel unable to do ourselves…
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GLENN: Can we just begin this with, this -- what you're watching is somebody who is bipolar, and on an extreme crazy high.
STU: You go through manic states when -- I've had relatives that have gone through this.
GLENN: Yes. And it is -- it's dangerous.
STU: You have manic states, where you believe all sorts of crazy things.
GLENN: And believe it to your core.
STU: Core. For weeks. And then you change.
GLENN: It's bad.
STU: This is full-fledged mental health crisis you're watching, in action.
GLENN: It is. And that's the first thing everybody should be saying on this. That's not what they're doing. Because they'll play politics and everything else. But we should have great compassion. And point it out to our relatives. That's what mental illness looks like. No. He's just a bigot. That's what mental illness looks like.
STU: Now, he's also a bigot. And that's also true.
GLENN: Yeah. I think I'm going to have to go there, at least at this time.
STU: Yeah. Would I be completely stunned. If he goes somewhere, gets on some medication, starts to feel better, and say, oh, my God. I can't believe I said that stuff. Yeah, sure, that's possible. Whether that's true or not, it's impossible to know. The bottom line is once you cross lines he has been crossing.
GLENN: Oh, yesterday. Was kind of the end -- the end of career. I mean, this one -- this one is it. This is it.
STU: It's hard -- I mean, is there another place to go. Once you start saying, I like Hitler, you kind of don't necessarily --
GLENN: When you're on Infowars with Alex Jones and Alex is like, whoa. Whoa. That's crazy.
STU: That's the best I've ever seen Alex Jones look. He was by far the most sane person in the room.
GLENN: He looked like Barack Obama in that room. It was crazy.
STU: It was a weird moment.
GLENN: Weird moment.
STU: We have, I know some of the audio we can play. If you haven't heard it yet, it's a little muffled because he's got a mask over his face.
GLENN: Okay. Again, mental illness.
STU: Yeah, not a COVID mask. But like, if you were to put a winter hat and pull it all the way down to your neck, that's basically what it looked like.
GLENN: If you're wearing a hoodie, backwards.
STU: Yes. Backwards.
GLENN: That's what it looked like. I think Kanye could eventually come out and go, that wasn't me.
STU: Right. I honestly wondered, is this his theory here? He's going to say all this stuff, and people are going to blame him, and say, that wasn't even me, I swear.
GLENN: Yeah. Well, and here he is, yesterday: I like Hitler. Cut four.
KANYE: I -- I like Hitler.
ALEX: I don't like Hitler. I know you're trying to be shocking with that.
KANYE: I'm not trying to be shocking. I like Hitler. I -- the Holocaust is not what happened. Let's look at the facts of that. And Hitler has a lot of redeeming qualities.
GLENN: Okay. Stop for a second. Okay. Let's just take that apart for a -- I know there's more. We'll get back to that. I like Hitler. The Holocaust never happened. Okay? Done.
STU: Oh, done.
GLENN: Done. With anyone who is sane. Anyone -- eh, he didn't kill 6 million. Oh, okay. Okay. Thank you. Buh-bye.
STU: He does say that, that they didn't kill 6 million.
GLENN: Right. Yeah. I know. We've got it.
STU: Once you get there.
GLENN: For me, that's the point that I say, excuse me. Could you just go deeper to that? And then I excuse him from the studio. Okay? I mean, that's the ravings of an absolute madman.
STU: Yeah. Now, look, there are millions of people who believe this. Followers of Louis Farrakhan. Followers of black Israelite ideology. There are a lot of people out there. And many of them seem to be congregated in the celebrity culture. With athletes, singers, comedians. There's -- there's a real underlying problem here. That Kanye is just at the tip of. Put he's the only one going that far, saying this stuff.
GLENN: And I prefer knowing. I'm glad he said that, because I'm like, okay. Okay. I'm not in the same boat as him.
STU: I'm glad knowing.
Because, normally, I would say -- if you want to put on somebody who will talk like this, I want to know who they are. So I don't necessarily want their voices censored. From the perspective of, I want to know exactly who they are.
GLENN: Me too.
STU: That being said, the only thing I have here that is a moderation aspect of this. The mental health aspect of this. This guy is completely bonkers.
GLENN: Exactly right.
STU: And, by the way, can we at least point out, we've been saying he was bonkers for a long time. Go back to our show of 2005, when we were talking about Kanye West, George W. Bush doesn't care about black people. He's been insane. Insane. Every day, including the days he put on a red hat. All the days until now.
GLENN: Yeah. Even the days we liked him and said, I think this is a real spiritual awakening. I think this is good. However, let's not all get on to the, he's the greatest guy ever. He's nuts. He's nuts.
STU: I didn't go as far as many did, as far as embracing him. I never did.
GLENN: No. You were always like, this guy is insane.
STU: However, I will say, I was rooting for his Christian conversion to be real. I always will root for that, no matter what the situation is.
GLENN: And to be honest, I think it is real.
STU: Because he says it, Hitler is born a Christian.
That's not the resume. We don't put that on the resume for Christians. We skip that completely.
And, by the way, he was not a Christian. He was not a Christian. I won't go into the whole history here. He absolutely was not a real Christian.
He absolutely hated Christianity. He wanted to destroy it.
Okay. So now, let me just say, you can, in an adult conversation with -- with an intellectual and highly spiritual bent, you could sit in a room with a few people and say, let's talk about Adolf Hitler. Okay?
Bad guy killed millions of people. Holocaust was real. Absolutely anti-Semite. He was -- he was most likely clinical insane by the end.
Really bad guy. However, if you're God, do you want -- do you hate him, or do you say, here is a soul that went so awry? If you're God, not me. Okay. If you're God. You know Jesus would look at Hitler, I think and say, forgive him, Father, he knows not what he does.
Now, I'm not Jesus. So I don't do that. But that's probably --
STU: No. Right.
GLENN: But that's the discussion you have philosophically, you know in a -- not on the Alex Jones show wearing a mask. Let's just say that.
GLENN: I'm just saying.
STU: You can go back even to that time, when he was doing these things actively and was alive doing them, and you can find spiritual leaders who will say things like that. Right? I'm sure if you went to Gandhi, he would be like, look, he's a lost soul. We can all feel that way.
GLENN: Yes. Mother Teresa absolutely would have said that. He's a lost soul.
STU: And he is a lost soul. But he did also much worse than just that.
GLENN: But Mother Teresa would not have said, you can't say out loud, this person never did in any good.
Okay. Maybe, Mother Teresa. Maybe. Maybe. I'm done with the classifications. Yes, she would have said that. Every human being has something of value. Yes. I agree. But she definitely would not have said, especially Hitler.
STU: Especially. If you were to single him out for all his positives.
GLENN: For all the positives he brought to the table. No, I don't think especially Hitler. No. Continue on. Because there's more
KANYE: I got to watch my accounts because they've been frozen by Jewish banks.
GLENN: Okay. Stop for just a second.
Yeah. I'm going to have to say, crazy. Okay?
STU: Yes, he's completely crazy, and it's worse than that.
It's not just a lunatic raving things in the streets. At some level, these views are something he's obviously entertained before. This is not day one of this theory.
GLENN: No, no, no.
I think this is -- I really -- here's my guess: He got into Christianity. It was new to him. He got all you know revved up. And really was on the right track. This is my guess.
GLENN: But then you introduce mental illness with that, and then his love for shock, plus his -- his -- the fact that he's being abandoned by all friends and everything else, and he's a huge superstar with lots of money, grifters come in, crazy people come in, and start to say, you know what, I'm with you on Jesus. And, you know what, and Jesus was a black man. And he was not a Jew. He didn't like Jews.
And you can see with the mental illness, you can see him go down this road with really bad people surrounding him. Not to this degree. But I've had friends -- I think we've all had friends. When you're surrounded by the wrong people and it is really to happen, when you have fame and fortune, especially at his level. That you can start hanging with the wrong people. And also, with religion.
Religion and this goes to the religion of global warming and everything else.
Look at how many of our friends have started to accept Marxism or celebrate your abortion. Because they got wrapped up with the wrong friends, that it wasn't obvious to them, that they were the wrong friends. You're like, stop buying this, you're drinking the Kool-Aid. What you're drinking is very dangerous. No, it's want. And all of a sudden, they're saying, celebrate your abortion. Dude, what are you talking about? I'm for the drag queens in story hour for the little kids. What have you become? We are living at a time where the world is mentally ill. And then people who are clinically diagnosed as mentally ill, are in real trouble.
STU: Which he has been, multiple times. And obviously has not been treated for it. Look, we can sit here and do this thing, where you look for the best possible, you know, scenario here, to explain his behavior.
GLENN: Yeah. But I'm not explaining the way.
STU: Believe me, you literally won the defender of Israel award. I know you're not trying to explain it in any way.
Mental health is really, really significant. When people get into these types of moments, they believe things. They believe they're in touch with the president. Of course, this guy actually is.
GLENN: You know what, on this one, I feel bad for Donald Trump.
Because Donald Trump, you get a call from Kanye West, and he says, I'm going to be in town, I want to just come by, talk to you about something for dinner.
I would have said, okay. Okay? If Kanye West called me and said, and just -- I want to talk to you about something.
STU: Not now, or any time recently. But I mean, back in the day, sure.
GLENN: No, I think in the last few weeks, I would have.
STU: I wouldn't have. He's been saying these things for weeks. Before he came out as an anti-Semite, sure. But previous to that, no. I mean, after that, no.
GLENN: I would have come out and said, I understand, to some degree, mental illness. Okay? Runs in my family like a pack of wild elephants. Believe me.
And so I think I would have said, I want to see for myself, and I want to see if I could help. I also appreciate his Christianity. But I think he is -- I think he's lost right now.
GLENN: I would have sat down with him.
STU: You're more of a man than I am.
GLENN: And listened to him.
Not now. Not now. But if Donald Trump gets a call, hey, I'm coming. I want to talk to you, can we have dinner? He says yes. Now, Trump is also thinking, get this guy out of the election in 2024, because we don't want any votes being wasted.
So he has dinner with him, he doesn't know what that is all about. And he immediately comes out and says, whoa. Real trouble.
STU: Yeah. I mean, the media tried to make that into a Trump issue.
GLENN: It's not.
STU: Understand how that gets out of control. And they -- look, they came out. The Kanye campaign for what it was. Came out and told everybody that the reason they did it was to take advantage of Donald Trump. Like, that was legitimately their goal. At least their stated goal.
Now, whether you can believe any of these people, associated with it, I don't know.
But that was their stated goal, was to hurt Donald Trump. So, again, I think Trump thing is a total. That's a media sideshow when it comes to something. When it comes to the easy parts. It's, the Holocaust happened. This is not difficult. I don't know why so many athletes. So many celebrities, have trouble with this.
This occurred. It's really, really bad. And it occurred.
And the fact that you can't, after all of this time, request all the evidence, that you can't sit back and understand it, and you deny it to this day, is incredibly disturbing. And it's not just Kanye. We've seen this happen with celebrities and athletes, routinely over the past few years.
GLENN: Oh, I know. And there are not just white supremacists. There are black supremacists as well.
STU: Kyrie Irving is white, as far as I know. Y, yeah. There is something on both cultures, at a turn the fringes into madmen.
STU: And let's not forget. You want to talk about a person that is a Holocaust tenure. And anti-Semite. That leaves millions of people. I also can show you a photo of Barack Obama. Louis Farrakhan. You can find tons of people in Congress, who met with this guy publicly.